Week 5: The Hospital Bill Arrives (A.K.A. Why You Can’t Shop for Health Care)
by Sharon Tjaden-Glass
One of the major talking points of Republicans about their plans for replacing the Affordable Care Act is that…
“It will encourage Americans to shop around for their health care.”
To which I say…
Bullshit.
“Shopping around” for health care isn’t a thing in the United States.
You cannot shop around when you don’t know the prices ahead of time.
I mean… Duh.
(You also cannot shop around if there is only one hospital in your area, as is true for all Americans who live far from larger cities.)
If we’re “consumers” of health care, shouldn’t we have the same amount of information that we have when we are consumers of cars or computers, or even breakfast cereal?
But we don’t.
We often don’t know how much our health care costs until we tear open the bill that finally comes to our mailbox weeks later.
Surprise!
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Before we had this baby, I tried to figure out about how much it was going to cost us out-of-pocket.
You know. For budgeting.
For planning our Flexible Spending Accounts.
You know. Because we want to be responsible. Because we want to make sure we’ve saved enough money to cover our health care costs.
We’re not in poor health. We don’t have pre-existing conditions. We’re fairly young. We’re gainfully employed.
Republicans should love us. Any plan put forth by them should definitely benefit us right? We’re kind of what they had in mind for good American health care “consumers.”
But the truth is you can’t blame “consumers” for the complicated mess that is the health insurance industry, nor can you blame them for the high costs of health care. You can’t tell Americans to just save their money and choose wisely.
I tried that approach and it didn’t work. Not because I didn’t try hard enough, but because the system is not designed to be transparent to patients.
The patients are an afterthought.
***
Our health insurance provider had some estimates for the costs of giving birth in the two main hospitals where I live. These costs were based on their negotiated rates for medical procedures with those hospitals.
But they were just estimates.
So I called the hospital’s pricing line, staffed by the billing department, for a more precise answer.
Ha. Ha.
First, no one picked up the line. It went straight to voicemail. Over and over again.
So I left a message.
Someone called me back the next day.
When I asked the billing department’s representative about specific prices for having a baby at their hospital, he said that he couldn’t give me any prices.
The pricing line. Couldn’t give me any prices.
So I got specific. I told him that I would be giving birth in the birthing center that is attached to the hospital, where I would be rooming in with my baby 24/7. So we wouldn’t be using the nursery. Would we be charged a fee for the nursery? I asked.
“Yes,” he said.
“Why?” I asked.
“Because it’s available to you.”
“So how much will the nursery cost us?”
“I can’t quote you a price on that. It all depends on your insurance and how long you stay.”
“But don’t you have average prices for average stays? Anything?”
“We have a price sheet you can look at, but it’s not going to be inclusive of all of your expenses.”
“I’ll take whatever you have,” I said.
So he referred me to this pricing list, published on the hospital’s website. Why he didn’t give this to me at the beginning of the phone call, I’ll never know.
Indeed, these charges showed up on my insurance claim for the birth.
But so did this mysterious $3500 charge. And a boatload of other charges that are all labeled “Ancillaries” and have no identifying characteristics other than a medical code that only medical transcribers can interpret.
I mean, really. Don’t I deserve a little more information than this? If we’re going to pay $1800, I’d kind of like to know what it pays for.
So I wait for the hospital bill to show up. Maybe they have more information than my health insurance company.
Not really.
From this bill, I can see that the ambiguous $1850 charge on my insurance claim is actually for the “Recovery Room.” But the other charges?
Who can tell?
The underlying message here is,
Please just accept this price. Your insurance company and the hospital have already decided on a negotiated rate and it’s really just best that you accept this price, pay it, and move on. See how expensive this birth was? You’re lucky that your insurance company is paying so much. So just suck it up and pay. There’s no free lunch, Friend.
***
I’m not the only one who has a problem with this.
“Childbirth is the number one reason why people go to the hospital,” reports Vox’s Johnny Harris in this well-researched video on this very topic. He finds that prices for uncomplicated deliveries in the United States vary from $1189 to $11,986.
I have to admit, I am slightly jealous that their out-of-pocket expenses were only $841.
But who am I kidding? Many, many Americans now have deductibles as high as $6000 now, making my $1000 deductible seem enviable.
The truth is that knowing the costs of this birth would have been helpful for me and my husband, but it didn’t break our bank. We earn enough money jointly that we can absorb a financial blow like this.
But what about the millions of Americans who can’t save $5000 to have a baby in a hospital?
What about those Americans who are “too rich” to qualify for Medicaid, but not rich enough to afford any kind of useful health insurance plan? One that doesn’t deter people from seeing the doctor simply because of the cost?
So politicians, quit telling people that they should learn how to make wise choices so they can save for their health care costs.
And quit telling people that they should “shop around” for their health care costs.
Not only is it demeaning, but often it is completely impossible.
Amen!
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Well put. And to add one more piece: healthcare costs vary dramatically by area. My uncomplicated but induced labor with an epidural and standard two-day hospital stay cost 55k! That’s because I live in the Bay Area. And who can save for that?
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Holy cow!! 55k?? Good God. I didn’t know costs could vary so much by location.
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Wow! So many of us complain about the NHS in England but when you read things like this it really makes me think we should grateful. A four hour wait in our accident and emergency/urgent care centres are nothing compare to the worry of being able to even afford giving birth! This makes me so appreciative!
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We also have long waits at the emergency room, but maybe the difference is that some people use the ER as their primary care provider if they don’t have insurance (thus, family doctors won’t see them.) This has been decreasing since Obamacare, as more people have gotten insured, but that’s probably going to change as Republicans strip away the provisions that helped the poor.
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It’s crazy! I knew you had to pay/have insurance in the US but never in a million years did I think it was so expensive!
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I’ve been chatting with a friend who stays home with her six kids about this. Her husband works for a small employer that isn’t required to provide insurance to employees, so they were using Obamacare. The problem is, the premiums keep going up. They had to drop insurance because they can’t afford to pay $1800 per month for health insurance for all of them. Even though they are healthy. They now have to roll the dice on their health this year.
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After reading this, I had to go and check my hospital bill from last year when I gave birth to our son here in Germany: 305 euros! I was staying at the university clinic for five nights in a family room (i.e., only myself and my husband – and yes, he did pay for his stay as well, 255 euros for bed and food.) In my bill, it isn’t separated what cost what, just main diagnosis, minor diagnosis, procedure codes, and the name of our newborn. But perhaps it could give some indication that my bill was 50 euros more expensive than my husbands for the same length of stay?
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I have an American friend who gave birth in Germany and had great things to say about her experience. We usually only have 2 days in the hospital and the first time we see our doctors post birth is at 6 weeks. I was impressed that my friend had regular home visits from a midwife throughout those first weeks at home. That would have been very helpful, especially the first time around when we had no idea what was normal!
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We ended up staying in the hospital for five days because some odd changes the hospital had had in its policies, and of which we hadn’t been informed about- even the hospital staff was still at the time confused (whether doctors are doing a release/final check-ups, before baby is going home, on weekends or not).
The midwife service is really good here, and you’re right that especially for the first-time mothers!
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This sounds terrible! I am already aghast at the estimated hospital bill for delivering my baby in Singapore (approx USD 5700), if there’s no complications. And that’s for a renown private hospital which I’m told is the most affordable private hospital. The difference in costing with public hospital is not very big so we opted for it. While in SG there’s no insurance system like in the US or the UK, the government offers a couple of thousand dollars to buffer the cost of having a baby for its citizens. There are much cheaper schemes for lower income groups. And most importantly, the medical costs are by law required to be transparent! You can do maternity tours (with great goodie bags to encourage you to go for the tours!) with pricing breakdowns given by each hospital. I lived in London before and have to say I’ve always had a great experience with the NHS. I can’t imagine how it must be like to live in the US with the things I hear about what’s happening in the medical industry there 😱
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It’s so interesting to hear about what health care and insurance is like in other countries. I teach international students English and whenever we get on this topic, I have to explain to them that people get health insurance through their employers. Inevitably, someone asks what happens if a person doesn’t have a job. And then all of the questions start. For many of my students, having access to decent health care isn’t dependent on your employer and it doesn’t make sense to them why American health insurance is structured this way. I have to agree with them!
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I agree 100% (especially as someone who will be dealing with this shortly with my own delivery). Insurance is very complicated. But you should look at your policy. You shouldn’t have to pay more than the $1,863.44. That should include your $1,000 deductible and your “co-payments” for $863.44 (which should be detailed more in your policy). There are a lot of insurance policies that cover 80% after you meet the deductible, relying you to pay the remaining 20%. If you do the math, the $863.44 is your portion of the charge after deductible. Good luck with your new little one!
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This is so shocking! I am an Australian living in Germany, and I know that in both countries the cost of giving birth is nowhere near as much as this. In fact, most of the costs are covered unless you want additions. This is an eye-opener!
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One of the reasons that our costs are so high is because we still have uninsured people that can’t pay for their bills. And if the hospital can’t collect their money for those people, it raises the prices for everyone else so they can compensate for the loss. In my opinion, it’s one reason that I believe everyone should have insurance, no debate. If we insist that everyone have car insurance if they drive, we can insist that everyone have health insurance. If everyone is paying into the system, costs can be distributed among the healthy much, much better.
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Amen.
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